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Received:  by CIOS Mailer; Friday 12 Jun 2009 05:31:24
Date:         Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:29:29 +0100
From:         "Gourlay, Stephen N" 
Subject: Re: Bakhtin (was: cool cars)
To:           Q-METHOD@LISTSERV.KENT.EDU
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There's=20some=20interesting=20stuff=20on=20'dialogism'=20drawing=20partly=
=20from
Bakhtin,=20partly=20from=20Rommetveit,=20who=20independently=20arrived=20a=
t=20some
apparently=20similar=20ideas=20through=20interest=20in=20conversation=20an=
d=20language
use.=20It's=20often=20struck=20me=20that=20q-method=20is=20dialogistic=20i=
n=20so=20far=20as=20it
people=20doing=20the=20sorts=20are=20explicitly=20invited/required=20to=20=
interrogate
themselves=20(i.e.=20engage=20in=20dialogistic,=20meaning-making=20behavio=
ur)=20via
the=20stimuli=20provided=20on=20the=20cards.=20I've=20not=20pursued=20this=
=20aspect=20of
trying=20to=20understand=20what's=20going=20on=20in=20a=20q-sort=20more=20=
fully.

See:
Linell,=20P.=202001=20Approaching=20dialogue,=20Amsterdam/Philadelphia:=20=
John
Benjamins=20Publishing.=20(A=20Google=20Scholar=20search=20for:=20author:l=
inell
dialogism=20will=20provide=20some=20useful=20materials)

Markova,=20I.,=202003,=20Dialogicality=20and=20social=20representations,=20=
Cambridge
UP=20(the=20last=20'a'=20in=20Markova=20has=20acute=20accent)

Not=20exactly=20in=20the=20same=20area,=20but=20potentially=20related=20-=20=
a=20critique=20of
rating=20scales=20that=20explores=20the=20idea=20of=20'meaning=20making'=20=
involved=20in
such=20processes.=20Valsiner=20has=20written=20much=20on=20methods=20that=20=
is=20critical=20of
mainstream=20approaches=20(he's=20not=20aware=20of=20q-method=20so=20far=20=
as=20I=20know).
Wagoner=20&=20Valsiner=20also=20propose=20that=20"the=20mental=20construct=
ion=20processes"
involved=20in=20rating=20are=20dialogical.

Wagoner,=20B=20&=20Valsiner,=20J.,=202005,=20Rating=20tasks=20in=20psychol=
ogy:=20from=20static
ontology=20to=20dialogical=20synthesis=20of=20meaning,=20in=20Gulerce,=20A=
=20et=20al=202005,
Contemporary=20theorizing=20in=20psychology,=20Concord,=20Ontario:=20Captu=
s=20Press
(the=20'u'=20in=20Gulerce=20should=20have=20an=20umlaut)=20At:
http://brady.wagoner.googlepages.com/WAGONERVALSINER2006.pdf).

Stephen

If=20a=20scholar=20"permits=20the=20perspectives=20and=20communicative=20s=
igns=20of=20the
participants=20in=20the=20...=20social=20process,=20which=20are=20part=20o=
f=20the=20data=20...
to=20dominate=20his=20[sic]=20own=20perspectives=20and=20instruments=20of=20=
inquiry=20and
communication,=20the=20consequences=20can=20only=20be=20intellectual=20con=
fusion,
distortion=20in=20perception=20and=20report,=20and=20loss=20of=20...=20enl=
ightenment=20..."
Lasswell=20&=20McDougal=201971,=20p.380.

>=20-----Original=20Message-----
>=20From:=20Q=20Methodology=20Network=20[mailto:Q-METHOD  at LISTSERV.KENT.EDU=
]=20On
Behalf
>=20Of=20Tim=20Deignan
>=20Sent:=2012=20June=202009=2009:40
>=20To:=20Q-METHOD@LISTSERV.KENT.EDU
>=20Subject:=20Re:=20Bakhtin=20(was:=20cool=20cars)
>=20
>=20...John=20-=20done...six=20pages=20winging=20their=20way...=20Tim
>=20
>=20-----=20Start=20Original=20Message=20-----
>=20Sent:=20Thu,=2011=20Jun=202009=2015:02:20=20+0100
>=20From:=20John=20Bradley=20
>=20To:=20Q-METHOD@LISTSERV.KENT.EDU
>=20Subject:=20Bakhtin=20(was:=20cool=20cars)
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>=20
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is=20a=20short
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relation=20to
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of=20education
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>=20Deignan,=20T.=20(2006)=20Transferable=20People:=20Reframing=20the=20Ob=
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>=20
>=20PhD=20thesis,=20University=20of=20Manchester.=20Abstract=20available=20=
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>=20-----=20Start=20Original=20Message=20-----
>=20Sent:=20Thu,=2011=20Jun=202009=2012:03:53=20+0100
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>=20To:=20Q-METHOD@LISTSERV.KENT.EDU
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